So in addition to
my long-winded, rambly reviews and occasional pseudo-academic essay-style
indulgences, sometimes I interview artists about the cool things they’re doing.
I was super excited to be able to chat to the fabulous Jess Bellamy about her upcoming
show Shabbat Dinner, which is on as part of the Bondi Feast Festival.
Read on to hear about food, family, and all the exciting things Jess is doing
both in this show and in the future.
JM: Hi Jess!
Let’s start with an easy one. Tell me a bit about Shabbat Dinner. What
was your inspiration?
JB: Shabbat
Dinner is a new performance piece that I have been writing alongside
director and dramaturg Anthony Skuse. It started out with the idea of simply
enacting a communal ritual that is significant to a lot of Jewish families.
Whether or not a family is religious/observant, Friday night holds weight for
most Jews. It's a night that means family. It's also a lot of fun and very
relaxing – an evening spent with your loved ones, eating familiar and tasty
foods, with no expectation apart from simply being there.
As the show
developed from this kernel, more ideas started to form within the overall
structure of the ritual. Anthony prompted me to consider the mythological base
from which so much Jewish law and instruction stems. The writing of this show
also took place as the same time that I was helping to pack up my grandparents'
family home. The play began to focus itself around the struggles that my
grandmother Miriam faced around the period of WWII: not just pertaining to
survival, but to gender roles and to familial obligations. And the show has
since become something quite big and unexpected.
JM: Is it true that you’re catering the
dinner yourself?
JB: I will be
cooking a Shabbat dinner from scratch from my audience. It will all be
vegetarian, and as close to my memories of Baba's cooking as possible.
JM: Family and
food are tied so deeply together for so many people - is it very confronting to
invite people into this very personal space for you? Exciting? Are there
elements of the story you're telling that can only be expressed by food? What
is it like using food as a new dramatic tool for storytelling?
JB: For my family,
food has always been a big deal. For my Ukranian family in particular, food is
a symbol that we are surviving and thriving. There are times when my family
went without food, so we take it seriously. My late grandmother was an amazing
cook and I didn't collect enough of her recipes when she was dying. Part of
this show is my attempt to recover those recipes, from the scraps and shards of
recipes written in Russian (and without any direction as to how long to cook
any of the things). My Mum has been translating a lot of them for me, as I
don't even speak the language. It is difficult to express how meaningful it is
to taste something that you thought you had lost forever, that you thought your
grandmother had died with. To realise that you can now make your own version of
this classic.
Food is the
structure of the play - a three course meal - but food is also the method in
which we get people to come together to communicate.
JM: Are you
terrified for having to cook for that many people? Have you considered doing a
behind-the-scenes-of-Shabbat-DinnerMasterchef style reality thing? That
would be EPIC.
JB: I am a bit
scared of the cooking ahead of me, but we have found ways to make it more
realisable. A behind the scenes special mockumentary is certainly a good idea!!
JM: I find the
idea of food and ritual is really fascinating. Theatre itself is kind of
ritualistic – we file into the darkness of the theatre, sit down, and wait for
dramatic enlightenment to fall upon us. Have you discovered any parallels
between your subject matter and the theatre as you've been developing the
piece? What about tensions or contradictions or challenges? And are you
sticking with the familiar theatrical rituals or are you doing something a bit
different?
JB: It has been
nice to think about the divisions between theatrical ritual and other more
domestic rituals. One thing I've always loved about theatre is that it's so
easy to break the silent agreement we've made with regards to decorum. One
person fainting, or screaming, could disrupt an entire show. And two shows are
never the same.
And here's the
interesting thing about ritual – I've realised that ritual is a way to make
sense of a confusing world by giving oneself order and regularity. If you know
that, come Friday evening, you'll be in the same house, eating the same dinner,
with the same people, it is a reassuring thought. It can also be something you
rail against as a teenager who wants to go out with her friends. But then I
imagine the same ritual from the perspective of my grandparents. For people who
have suffered – who spent 6 years of war being flung from separate ends of
countries at a moment's notice –it must be quite reassuring to know that every
Friday is the same. The same safety, the same regularity, the same comfort.
We will not be
sticking with conventional theatre rituals –we will be inviting the audience up
in shifts to share some food with us. While up there, they will be expected to
listen to the play unfold, but they will also be participants in the play. I
don't mean awkward audience participation (no one will ask you where you lost
your virginity). What I mean is, if we sing a song that you recognise, you are
welcome to sing it with us. If you just want to eat your challah bread and
stare dagger-eyes at us, then you are welcome to stick to that.
JM: I love the
idea of a three course meal being the structure of the show – is this an idea
you arrived at fairly early on, or did it come later? Have you discovered
different nuances to the different courses as you've been developing the show?
And talk me through how you developed the menu for the show - the process
you've gone through recovering your grandmother's recipes sounds so
fascinating. I remember collecting my grandmother's recipes after she died, and
you are absolutely right that being able to taste something you thought you
never would again is so, so powerful. For me, there were also some that I
either could not reproduce, try as I might, or that I ended up adapting and
reinventing. Is this something you've done a lot of, especially considering
your Shabbat dinner is vegetarian?
JB: The structure
of a three course meal made a lot of sense, and then we let the content of each
course shape the direction of the story we told. So, for example, the richness
of a bright red borscht soup evokes blood and menstruation - and these ideas
get explored in the piece. We also found many Biblical references to relate to
these images too, and have woven all of them together. When collating the menu
for this show, I thought about what a typical Shabbat dinner with my family
would entail. It was usually the same food. Until we all went vegetarian, it
was a chicken soup, followed by chicken katletki (garlicky chicken pattties)
with rice and salad. When my parents, sister and I went vegetarian, we had to
sub in something different. We would experiment with borscht and with a
delicious clear soup with wheat dumplings that we called "dumple
soup". I have asked a lot of culinary questions of my Mum and Sister to
see what they remember from these dinners, and devised a pretty accurate menu
from these gleanings. It has required some Russian-to-English translations from
my Mum and a lot of trial and error in my kitchen!
The idea of
reinvention that you speak of is an interesting one, and this is definitely
something that came across. My Mum even noted, when emailing me a recipe of
Korzhicky cookies, that perhaps Baba's recipe had now become her recipe, via
her translation of it into English. And then once I cook it using my own style
of mixing/measuring/etc, it becomes a new recipe again. I've realised that all
these things are just readings of existing readings. There is no definitive way
to make anything, and the beauty of history is that we try afresh in every
generation to reimagine something ephemeral. Isn't it funny how I see Baba's
recipe as the "kernel", when in reality, she probably had the same
recipe taught to her from someone else? Recipes are history, and as a result,
they are powerful. DELICIOUSLY powerful.
JM: Let's talk
about your creative team. You've been working with director Anthony Skuse, and
it sounds like you've been having an awesome time collaborating! Who else is
involved in Shabbat Dinner, and in what capacity? And what's it like for
you, fabulous lady playwright that you are, being on stage and more involved in
the performative side of things?
JB: I have had a
wonderful time with this particular creative team. Anthony Skuse is a joy to
work with because he asks precise and challenging questions to expand your
understanding of the story you're writing, then sends you home with an armful
of books, a bunch of famous artworks to google, and some Laurie Anderson music.
He is a cultural encyclopedia, and he has wrenched this play into an entirely
new territory for me. Along the way, we have involved some very talented and
generous women: Lara Rosenthal, Sara Swersky, Samantha Young and Eloise Snape.
The only other bloke is musician Simon Friedlander, who will be providing a
score for the evening.
It has been pretty
scary to get back into the performing side of things. I have neglected that
side for quite a few years, ever since I became a freelance playwright. While I
often read my work at events like Story Club and You Are Here Festival, I have
a piece of paper in my hands as a safety blanket.None of that here! I also have
to try and "act" too, which is a very terrifying and brave thing to
do. I have always had a lot of respect for actors, but have even more now! As
well as the acting, I'll be serving you all dinner. Pretty good deal for $15,
really!
JM: And finally,
what's coming up next for you? Where should people who love Shabbat Dinner go
to get more Jess in their lives?
JB: This is a big
year for me, I'm excited to say! If you want a bit more Jess in your
theatregoing life, you can find me at the following things:
This Saturday night I am reading a story about the
fateful summer where Taylor Swift and I were best friends and womyn's
collective haunts together.
In August I am
participating in a multi-playwright festival called LoveNOT in Manila,
Philippines!
In September, a
show that I have devised with Clockfire Theatre called The Grief Parlour opens
at Riverside Theatre as part of the True West season. This is a beautiful piece
of theatre inspired by LeCoq mime and movement that explores that very
impossible yet natural desire to have one final moment with your loved one when
they die. It is a funny, touching piece with treats in store for lovers of
physical theatre and beautiful music. See more here.
I have a family
show at atyp in October called Compass, which is an exploration of school camps,
moral compasses and our understanding of 'the outsider'.
FINALLY I have a
play for teenagers in Canberra in late October as part of their Triptych season.
PHEW!
*****
If Shabbat
Dinner sounds like just the kind of awesome you need in your life, you can
read more about it and buy tickets on the Bondi Feast website here. Thanks again to Jess for taking the time to
chat to me!
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